>>IMHO, do form is not using a class, but something else.
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>If it is not a class then what does, say, Thisform refer to in that form? I always thought I was using an instance of Form class and I can create forms based (subclassed) on form classes and still use do form. If it is not a class then I wonder what it is. And I can save it as a class, does that mean I am saving a value type magically converting into a class on the fly?
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>Sorry to disagree. It is a class in either case.
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>Cetin

Good point. I guess I just "feel" it differently. I think I stand corrected.