>If you used parameterized views for the grids of the child and grandchild tables things would get easier. You'd no longer need the relational code/properties. You can control when they get Requeried

That's got me thinking - the one time I really want to have more than one grid does permit this approach, or even using a SQL statement INTO cursors and dropping certain relationships - I've never used views but I'll look into it !

Thank you

Dick