>thanks for the NOSHOW answer.
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>I changed the forms visibile prop to .f. and then the NOSHOW worked fine.
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>for the event firing sequence, i put messagebox() in the init and in the Activate events and the activate event fired first, I dont know why.
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Such effects can occur when the form gets visible too early - that is, before the form.Show() runs.
For example by doing a "Thisform.someControl.SetFocus()" in Thisform.Init()



hth
-Stefan