>>>>I'm one of those lefty liberals who is dead set against torture, but honestly, the 'Facial Grasp'? The 'Insect in a confinement box'? These are tortures? I kind of had something different in mind.
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>>>Okey, describe, what are these? How can these are legal?
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>>The idea is that the worst forms of torture are avoided (at least officially). (Personally I find these "lesser tortures" bad enough - enough to still be called tortures. But I have to agree that worse things have been done.)
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>American citizens even don't talk with officers without lawyers. They're have these rights but other poor trash people don't have rights...

Other 'poor trash?'

Would you care to post the 'approved interrogation techniques' of Turkey please? I've witnessed them.

What bothers me is not what is approved, but the fact that it is now published for the world to see. Sheesh, folks going through the SERE training are subjected to more than the list contains in order to prepare them for possible interrogation/torture by enemy forces. That of course, has had its own controversies:

As a result of POWs' experiences during Operation Desert Storm, sexual assault resistance was added to the SERE curriculum. However, some of the training scenarios allegedly were taken too far by SERE cadet members at the academy during practical portions of the program. In 1995, the ABC television news program 20/20 reported that as many as 24 male and female cadets in 1993 had allegedly been sexually assaulted at the Academy during SERE training. One of the cadets sued the government, which eventually settled for a reported $3 million in damages.

from the wikipedia.

and now officially the course has changed.

Interesting article here:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/hitchens200808?currentPage=1