>>>>I'm one of those lefty liberals who is dead set against torture, but honestly, the 'Facial Grasp'? The 'Insect in a confinement box'? These are tortures? I kind of had something different in mind.
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>>>Okey, describe, what are these? How can these are legal?
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>>The idea is that the worst forms of torture are avoided (at least officially). (Personally I find these "lesser tortures" bad enough - enough to still be called tortures. But I have to agree that worse things have been done.)
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>To me torture is something that is done to punish a person. And, I agree, this should not be at all allowed in the civilized society.
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>But using even very harsh methods as interrogation techniques, when lives of innocent people are at stake, is different. If some crazy person kidnapped your children and puts them in a place where they have a limited supply of air/oxygen and can only survive for a few hours, would you authorize very harsh interrogation (including inducing fear or pain) to find out where the kids are and save them?

Is different? Does your government use these techniques with your citizens? For instance on a dangerious serial killer for save children?

My own countries officers did torture to my own people but even these officers never named it -legally- . At 21.century that's really unbeliavable. Obama says "these CIA inspectors won't be judge". That made me very disappointed. These man and whoever said them "that's legal" should be judge.