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05/05/2009 17:55:52
 
 
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05/05/2009 17:18:52
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
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Forum:
Finances
Category:
Budget
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01393480
Message ID:
01398037
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76
>Not sure whether it's interesting to continue unless we can at least agree that the State has an obligation to protect citizens from individuals who are only interested in themselves;

In a free society, individuals have every right to be interested only in themselves so long as their actions do not violate the rights of others.

>and that the Bill of Rights does not establish the right to assert personal rights at the expense of everybody else.

The Bill of Rights sets limits upon the State, not individuals. The Constitution allows the State to enforce laws enacted by the citizenry through a specified legislative and judicial process, however, those laws must not violate the Constitutionally established restrictions upon State authority.

Your assertion that a red light runner should have their private property confiscated is unconstitutional on 4th Amendment grounds. Namely because the seizure is unreasonable. I contend that the same seizure is unconstitutional as applied to the banks, especially given the pressure exerted by the State to force compliance.

I continue to ask without a response, where's the line?
The answer, obviously is: The Constitution is the line.
Wine is sunlight, held together by water - Galileo Galilei
Un jour sans vin est comme un jour sans soleil - Louis Pasteur
Water separates the people of the world; wine unites them - anonymous
Wine is the most civilized thing in the world - Ernest Hemingway
Wine makes daily living easier, less hurried, with fewer tensions and more tolerance - Benjamin Franklin
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