>>>They hated us long before George. The funny thing is if we had the same mindset of our grandfathers this discussion would be moot at best.
>>>These people are not our friends, never were and never will be. They are not even criminals ( and you do a disservice to criminals by calling them that ), they are vermin who prey on any and all who oppose them with no regard for even their own comrades. They are evil and must be destroyed.
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>>>I frankly don't care about their idealogy, religion, economic situation or who they dated or raped in high school; I care that they want to do me and mine harm. I find humor in all these left handed thinkers who feel all the worlds woes are brought on by the US but if you had to ask them to take a personal stake in this situation other than protesting and purporting empty solutions they seem to be absent. I don't see the Netherlands, or any other sympathetic bleeding heart country, stepping up to offer them sanctuary. If you are so opposed to their plight then lobby your leaders to take them in and re-patriate them.
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>>Well that sums up nicely how we think the average american thinks about it.
>>Again, if you're an elephant, you'd better think twice before running into a china shop. If you break it, you own it. I don't see why the Netherlands has to clean up the mess that the US has created by their own stupidity.
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>>I don't have any solution what to do with those prisoners. If you send them back, they'd probably be killed. Send them anywhere else and they will dedicate their lives against the US in every way they can, even if they were innocent from the start. They should have had a fair trial, not being tortured and the geneva convention should have been applied. There is absolutely no excuse for what the US has done to them, even if they commited the greatest crimes. Anyone thinking otherwise, to me, is absolutely nothing better than the acused ones. We did not fight hard and lost millions of lives up here to see the geneva convention and human rights in general to be totally lost. Your stance is an insult to all the ones that lost their lives in two world wars.
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>>It also stuns me that you think you'd should destroy those people. You want to inflict WWIII do you? Repeat the holocaust by creating conventration camps of muslim (how would you determine whether one is taliban, al quida or simply a religious conservative muslim ?)
>>There are much better ways of controlling and reducing the threat than the GI JOE tactics of those cowboys of your former adminsitration. I have faith in Obama: He can't possibly do worse than this.
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>You write as though every prisoner in Guatanamo was tortured. Do you have evidence of that?

There is evidence that it did happen on more than an incidental scale, with permissions from the US government. Is this not enough?