Dragan --

Thanks for the demonstration of obfuscation.

I find most icons to be of little value, even those so common to most programmers. The Property Window, for instance, has an icon before each name it lists. Useless to me and I'd prefer them to be gone. (I imagine this is a fairly unusual response.)

Nonetheless, my original comment had to do the comment "yOU ARE REALLY MAKING NO seNSE to say that ThINgs are obfuscated.". One person's clarity may be another's obfuscation.

Abe's famous statement "With clarity towards all" can only be a goal.

Jim

>>You're telling him which things he finds obfuscating?
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>>I find icons obfuscating. Or am I wrong about that?
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>Icons are signifiers - they don't really represent, depict nor are they images of an ob/subject. They are supposed to signify, to mean, to symbolize.
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>But to understand a sign which is a symbol, you need to know the whole symbology, and that's where it goes haywire. Imagine an icon of a haystack - is it going to open a view into the system stack, or is it going to open advanced search?
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>Take the floppy icon. It's forever stuck showing a 3.5 inch diskette with most of it being the sticker - not a 5.25, not an 8", not a 3" (which looked the same, anyway), even on today's machines which have no floppy drive at all. I stopped carrying mine to the next machine when the kids' schools finally accepted homework done on a thumbdrive. What's the icon for thumbdrive?
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>Or, take any icon, and chances are you will run into cultural differences, mistaken meanings... just as bad as a misnomer can be (pajero vs montero, for example), or as the regular ambiguity in English (see link below) can lead to a mistake.