>>>>>>You cannot be serious...can you? That's not even a good attempt at spin. PMPRB is a governmental agency determining the maximum allowable price for patented drugs to be sold in Canada. On what planet is that not price fixing?
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>>>>>>Here's an example from today's news : http://pr-usa.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=205120&Itemid=33
>>>>>>The Board issued a Notice of Hearing pertaining to allegations of Board Staff that Concerta had been, and was being, sold by Janssen-Ortho Inc. at prices exceeding those indicated by the Board's Excessive Price Guidelines. On April 3, 2009, the Hearing Panel received a Voluntary Compliance Undertaking ("VCU") which proposed to resolve the issues raised in the Notice of Hearing.
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>>>>>>The VCU requires, among other things, that Janssen-Ortho offset excess revenues in the amount of $1,464,441.58 by making a payment to the Government of Canada. By Order of the Board, the proceeding into the price of Concerta is hereby concluded.
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>>>>>OK, let's agree to call this a price fixing if you want. Given that, I'm still in favor of the governmental agency. I refuse to be taken in hostage by drug companies in the case that I desperatly need a given drug to survive.
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>>>>What if the governmental agency is the one taking you hostage.
>>>>http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Arthritis-Consumer-Experts-980591.html
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>>>>That being said, I return to my premise. What do you think will happen if America adopts the same system and the drug companies suddenly find themselves without the American market to recover R&D costs?
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>>>>>>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300939,00.html
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>>>>>I never said that our system is perfect.
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>>>>No system is perfect and that's beside the point. My questions are based what I see as obvious consequences of the US adopting a universal plan and whether or not Canadians as the nearest neighbor with an established universal plan in place are ready for them.
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>>>>>This is a case where improvment can/must be made. The bottom line is that thoses mothers and babies are alive and healthy today. Inconvenient? Yes. Life-threatening? Hardly.
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>>>>Some were life threatening. There are other examples involving surgery and cancer which can be easily googled.
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>>>This'll scare the heck out of you. Nationalize the drug companies and make them part of the medicare system.
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>>That would scare the heck out of Jake, wouldn't it? He seems to love the status quo. And the more messed up and/or rapacious the industry is, the more he likes them! LOL. Like the government would be messing with perfection or something....
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>Argue the point you wish to make and avoid personally disparaging comments please.

I don't think it was personally disparaging. I get along all right with Jake. The comments were based on his many posts here and IMO an accurate reflection of his POV.

Are you a sysop or something now?