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>>>>>>I read a book a few years back about the creation of the King James edition. The book was interesting, though not an easy read. That translation was very political, both in motivation and in intention.
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>>>>>>Tamar
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>>>>>As has been pretty much every translation - especially of the New Testament. Does make you think Islam may have learned from this in the takfiri assertion the Quran must not be translated but one must come to it in its original language - though of course even then there is a huge body of Hadith and Sahabah - some of which are commentary by the Prophet himself.
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>>>>>The problem is much more complicated for the Bible of course because of the multiple authorship, the political translation and councils as to what would be excluded or included, and the multiples languages that were sole sources for some of the material.
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>>>>>Takes a lot of faith to get very literal.
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>>>>Old Testament was pretty much standardized at the point of Nicea Council. Dead Sea scrolls confitmed that text didn't change since that time, i.e. few centuries before the council.
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>>>Quite true. The Old Testament - at least the Greek Septuagint - was pretty much a known quantity five or six centuries before Nicea. But the Latin Vulgate was Jerome's doing and that was contemporary with Nicea. Greek Orthodox still adheres to the Septuagint while King James (and Douay Reims) are heavily influenced by the Vulgate. Along the way I'm sure there were a lot of very human decisions that had to be made both about translation and inclusion/exclusion of some text. Not sure how closely any of this adheres to the Tanakh but my understanding is the Protestant versions of the OT coincide most closely.
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>>>Of course the Pentatuch is probably has the best pedigree of the lot when it comes to maintaining the original <s> A lot of guardians for a very long time.
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>>You are a scholar among us, Charles. Not being sarcastic at all.
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>The cool thing about studying history instead of something you can make a living with is that you get to read pretty much anything and somehow it is all part of it <bg>
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>Plug : I'm currently on a Paul Johnson jag. If anyone likes history at all, read *anything* by Paul Johnson. Modern Times - the World from the 20s to the 80s is particularly good. Just finished rereading Intellectuals The guy can really write and his mind is crystal clear. Even better than Tuchman. He's also on my fantasy dinner party list. Probably sit him between Bernard Lewis and Tom Wolfe <s>

Noted re Paul Johnson. I will hare over to Amazon and order one of his books.

Tom Wolfe used to be a favorite, not so much any more. I think he's kind of lost it. But "Bonfire of the Vanities" remains a classic.
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