>>>>>>>Just goes to show that there are differing views in every place. Nicholas' kids had no vaccines (if I understood him correctly).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thats correct and I have no intention of ever having a flu vaccine either
>>>>>
>>>>>Once again, I ask why not? FWIW, when I asked my doctor whether I should get a flu vaccine (a couple of years ago--I was maybe 48), his response was that everyone should.
>>>>>
>>>>>You feel this way about all vaccines, no matter what they're for and what the risks are? If you'd been a parent when the polio vaccine came out, would you have not immunized your kids? (FWIW, I remember standing in line for that one.)
>>>>>
>>>>>What are these risks that you feel outweigh the benefits?
>>>>>
>>>>>Tamar
>>>>
>>>>We have always used alternative medicine (homeopathy) .
>>>>
>>>>For that reason discussing it with most (though not all) doctors would be fairly pointless.
>>>>
>>>>Nick
>>>
>>>Nick,
>>>
>>>oops, I feel that I have a problem with the rat feast. ::)
>>>
>>>My doctor, a homeopathic if one let she, allways vote for vaccination. Even she does not feel that some drops of alcohol will cure a flu.
>>>
>>>I do not argue that homeopatic is not working. I had some homeopaths in my family so I'm grown up with. We had a dead by a variola vaccination too I do need to be told that.
>>>
>>>I've seen enough people harmed by polio (we had a reconvalescence treatment nearby) that I would not risk it. And even with successfull treatment it will hit you again after some ten years.
>>>Have you seen what scarlet or chickenpox might do? Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsay_Hunt_syndrome_type_II. There is a member in UT that might provide deeper insight.
>>>
>>>Flu is a little bit more tricky since it is so fast changing. But even this "weaker" protection will help to prevent the flu virus to change.
>>>
>>>I think that somebody that rejects vaccination should pay any cure out of his own pocket.
>>>
>>>The problem is that there need to be also some solidarity to those who can not recieve a vaccination by there health status. (Let's say somebody with a replaced kidney). If those who can fight the problem with little risk (much smaller then daily traffic) infect one of the weaker, I plea malicious wounding.
>>>
>>>In fact, everybody that rejects vaccination let those take the risk that get vaccinated, and is shielded by those. Do you count this fair?
>>>
>>>Side notes:
>>>
>>>-The basic homeopathic principle. As higher the potency as stronger it goes.
>>>If ever your doctor mention that you should take an extra dose if you feel not better, he violates his own rules.
>>>
>>>-If the doctor gives you a homeopatic treathment faster then within an half hour, he is not a homeopath.
>>>
>>>-Hahnemann is famous for one thing only: He was the first doctor how works for cash before delivery. (The other famous, Hippocrates was the firstone who takes money at all)
>>>
>>>-Little problems will go away within 4 days. The doctor will need half a week for the same.
>>>
>>>Agnes
>>
>>
>>Hi Agnes
>>
>>I've got a lot of reluctance to talk about this here as I can only expect trouble
>>
>>the herd thng is interesting but then would you do something you felt was harmful to your health because it may benefit others.
>>
>>Nick
>Nick,
>
>I think you have a blind spot.
>All the society you live in is based on that concept.
>Or do you feel that sitting in front of a comp is so usefull that you get direct benefit out of it?
>
>Anyway, see what "hamless" childhood disease can do. Read with an open mind.
>
>On the other hand how far will you go with your "harmfull" concept? Is soap something that you will find naturally? So why do you clean yourself? Do you now about the long term effects? It will injure your skin. O.K if you don't wash yourself the effects of scabies will remind you soon.
>
>Man, life is a disease that starts with conception and ends with dead.
>You are able to program a comp, so you must have basical mathematical understanding. Feel is nothing you can do with statistics.
>Most people die in a bed, but is this something that stops you from sleeping?
>Have you some fear of things you have never seen? What's with your back side?
>Do you know all things that can go wrong with your car, let alone all the fools around?
>Do check all the lamps every time you start to drive as you are supposed too? Do you do a little stroll around to check the tyres at least?
>The pilot of an airplane will do. The plane will have a thight maintenance plan too. Do you realy think little safings here and there will not happen to your car? But there is allways those feeling ...
>
>You take the benefits (because our vaccination shields you and your sibship too), but you don't share the risk. Thank you bolshoi.
>
>Agnes


Agnes

if you are immunized how am I putting you at risk. Your are supposedly immune.