>>>>>>>>>This portends bad for the immediate US future, but good long term, as it will be fatal to many of the dems who are ruining our economy, and attempting to invoke Stalin's master plan!
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>>>>>>>>What is the similarity with Stalin here? Do you mean there is a tendency for the government to take total control of every aspect of life, or what?
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>>>>>>>Haven't you heard? Democrats are Socialists. Or maybe Communists, one or the other.
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>>>>>>I recently read an editorial on socialism and Obama's policies. I can't remember where, but this stuck in my mind (I'm paraphrasing until I can find the article):
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>>>>>>Socialism, like farenheit, comes in degrees. A government that nationalizes GM is definitely more socialist than one that doesn't. Doesn't necessarily mean we are living under socialism yet, but differences of degree shouldn't obscure differences of kind.
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>>>>>>So far, 82 billion of 39 trillion corporate business assets have been nationalized by the U.S. government. That's less than 1%, but it is a socialist act.
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>>>>>>It bears watching closely. It's not critical unless that 1% keeps increasing in degrees or different socialist acts keep occurring.
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>>>>>>Another comment I recently read (this is a good one from either the Hill or the Atlantic):
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>>>>>> While terrorists do not need to fear any violation of their constitutional rights, CEOs of Fortune 500 companies will not be so fortunate.
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>>>>>>:o)
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>>>>>Obama has no interest in being in the auto business or the banking business. Some very large institutions were going to fail, hence the bailouts. You are using the word "nationalized" incorrectly. If these guys weren't too dumb to avoid spectacular losses none of this would have come up.
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>>>>And you know that how? Because he said so? Don't actions speak louder than words? So essentially, nothing is ever Obama's fault. It's the fault of corporations that this country is creeping towards socialism? Nonsense. No one forced Obama to institute the bailout and no one forced Obama to institute a bailout that required government control. Did you even bother to read cap and trade? Have you even looked at his medical system overhaul closely? Do you only go by his words which never say anything specific? Have you not noticed that he has gone back on his words already? Didn't we previously have discussions on taxing the middle class during the campaign? Wonderful way to blindly support Obama regardless of his actions.
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>>>>Commenting on his actions and slow creep towards socialism cannot be shrugged off as right wing propaganda or talking points - it is called critical thinking. I do support nationalized medical care and I do support choice. However, when you look at all of his actions and policies together, there is a definite move towards socialism and government control over the public. Cap and trade is the most concerning.
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>>>You make it sound like Obama went out and took over a bunch of companies in order to move us towards socialism. First, the bailouts began under Bush. (And I agreed with those, too). Second, these companies were absolutely hemorrhaging money and threatening to take the world economy down with them. Drastic times call for drastic measures. Third, none of these companies are going to remain under government control permanently. As soon as they are healthy enough again they will be back on their own.
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>>I've mentioned this before, but evidence shows that simply is not true:
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>>http://www.reason.com/news/show/133065.html
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>We shall see.

Not sure why we need to wait and see. It's already proven difficult for banks to pay back the $ and get out from underneath the government ownership and control. The evidence is already there. What are you waiting to see? Are you waiting for the rules to change after public scrutiny?

Here's one from a source you like:
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/01/the-bailout-halftime-report/?ref=business

Here's alittle something on Obama's promise for transparency:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/01/AR2009070103694.html