>Your government always controls you to some extent, its called living in a country .
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>As I recall, about 200+ years ago, a few patriots on our side of the Atlantic said, "we'll see about that"

Actually, their issue was specifically that the government wasn't giving them their due input into the process. They didn't object to government per se. Our founders considered themselves Englishmen and their problem was that the English king wasn't affording them the rights of Englishmen.

Tamar