>>>>"health care is NOT a right"
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>>>>that marks you as a savage Kevin. You want to live a "devil take the hindmost" society .
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>>>Health care cannot be a right for the simple fact that care is provided by people. If one has a "right" to care then one has a right to service from another person. You cannot resolve the civil rights of the provider with the right to care of the patient.
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>>We co-operate and live in a society for some benefit.
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>No one is arguing otherwise.
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>>I call Kevin a savage not in a derogatory way
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>How do the kids say it...oh puh-leese!
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>>but to mark the fact that he doesn't believe in society and , I suppose, neither do you.
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>I believe one's labor and its fruits belong to the individual, not the community and not the State. Thus, I believe in a free society. I suppose you do not.

That's pretty Darwinian -- the more capable can keep everything they make and the rest can go hang. I agree with Nick that a civilized society should not operate on that basis.