> We need to win those hearts and minds,
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>It's that type of highly flawed thinking that contributed to our ineffectiveness in Vietnam.
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>Tamar, I'm sorry, but these statements are SO FAR off base.

How many dead in Vietnam Kevin. What would you policy have been. Of Course nuke Chine,Russia,Cambodia,Laos, North Vietnam. Your ineffectiveness wasn't about military force it was about too much military force.