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13/07/2009 18:08:00
 
 
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13/07/2009 17:28:04
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
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>It is not FUD, it's perfectly relevant to the current health care debate.
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>It is FUD unless you can substantiate it. I asked for an example. The one you provided does not support *any* of the three referenced objections to a socialized scheme.
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>Of course lots of things *might* happen. But do you refuse to ride in an aeroplane because it might crash? Do you refuse to use a granite kitchen bench because it might be radioactive? Some people really do behave that way. I do not believe they are the majority. Many of us prefer to rely on experience, evidence and substantiated expert opinion/standards to decide what is best for us. And others don't really care as long as they get to educate their kids or buy a new widescreen TV. When you see talking heads on both sides presenting their arguments in the media it's dismaying to see how many of them seem to be targeting Groups 1 and 3. If this means that Group 2 has become too few or too disempowered to be worth addressing, maybe it's time to assert political rights again.

I don't know a lot about Hawaii's experiment, but I did read an article which stated that one of the reasons it was cancelled was because children who were originally on private insurance policies were switched to the public policy and that was not its intent. Another reason was the costs.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93SBEUG0&show_article=1

Snippet:

Hawaii is dropping the only state universal child health care program in the country just seven months after it launched.
Gov. Linda Lingle's administration cited budget shortfalls and other available health care options for eliminating funding for the program. A state official said families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan.

"People who were already able to afford health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free," said Dr. Kenny Fink, the administrator for Med-QUEST at the Department of Human Services. "I don't believe that was the intent of the program."

Hawaii lawmakers approved the health plan in 2007 as a way to ensure every child can get basic medical help. The Keiki (child) Care program aimed to cover every child from birth to 18 years old who didn't already have health insurance—mostly immigrants and members of lower-income families.

It costs the state about $50,000 per month, or $25.50 per child—an amount that was more than matched by HMSA.

State health officials argued that most of the children enrolled in the universal child care program previously had private health insurance, indicating that it was helping those who didn't need it.
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