>>>>>Your ineffectiveness wasn't about military force it was about too much military force.
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>>>>>Baloney. Pure baloney. LBJ's containment policy was pure folly.
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>>>>>Had this country elected Barry Goldwater in 1964, Vietnam would have likely ended much sooner with a much better outcome than the bloodbath in 1975. You want to read about one of the most vicious acts of torture, read about the acts of the Khmer Rouge in 1975.
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>>>>After the French had been driven out the US had a chance to come to an accommodation with the Vietnamese, instead you supported the creation of South Vietnam and caused a decade of war. the Goldwater reference is no surprise though I think he would ultimately have withdrawn sooner than Nixon.
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>>><snip> instead you supported the creation of South Vietnam and caused a decade of war.
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>>>Source - Wikipedia - The terms "South Vietnam" and "North Vietnam" became common usage in 1954 at the time of the Geneva Conference, which partitioned Vietnam into communist and non-communist zones at the 17th parallel.
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>>>Note that Eisenhower(R) was President 1n 1954. Kennedy(D) was President when the USA escalated its involvement in the defense of South Vietnam against the invasion from the north.
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>>According to the terms of the Geneva Accords, Vietnam would hold national elections in 1956 to reunify the country. The division at the seventeenth parallel would vanish with the elections. The United States and many anti-Communists did not support the Accords. Secretary of State John Foster Dulles thought that the political protocols of the Accords gave too much power to the Vietnamese Communists. He was not going to allow the Communists to take southern Vietnam without a fight. Instead, Dulles and President Dwight D. Eisenhower supported the creation of a counter-revolutionary alternative south of the seventeenth parallel. The United States supported this effort at nation-building through a series of multi-lateral agreements that created the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO).
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>Good for them. They did the right thing.

I doubt the millions of dead South East Asians plus several 10s of thousands of conscripted young Americans would agree with you.Now Cheney, Bush etc at that time where ....hmmm let me see.