PMFJI, but are you seriously suggesting that our support for our only free, democratic ally in the region is justification for the immolation of 3000+ civilians? And if so, wouldn't that justify Kevin's position of laying waste to various countries in the region due to their support of those who've attacked us? You do realize that there has been war in that region for thousands of years and it isn't because of Israel's existence.

>IMO if we didn't have a persistent pro-Israel bias in the Middle East there would not have been a 9/11.
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>>Once again, this entire argument is based on the fantasy that these individuals are operating completey outside the realm of nation-states.
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>>Had we soundly smashed some of these thugocracies into the ground in the last 20 years, odds are very high we wouldn't have had 9/11.
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>>Actually, we'd need to re-evaluate other things as well. We provide assistance to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and a host of other countries that turn around and fund religious schools that teach children to hate America, and also train jihadists.