>Not at all. I'll say it again.> when has taxation removed the majority of the fruits of their labour.
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>When they get to keep 50% or less of the money that they earn. And there are plenty of example of that in the world today.
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>And I won't repeat myself anymore. It is very clear that you are a Marxist and I am not. We have no common frame of reference.

Well I understand your POV Marcia. It doesn't mean I agree with it though. I'm not a marxist but I do think that in a high population moderrn society the founding fathers every man for themselves doesn't work very well. The state has a different role to play. I don't want it intruding on my personal life but it does have right to ask me for a contribution to running costs.