>>>>>That's easy for you to say. I have daughters who need me and bills to pay.
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>>>>>WHICH IS ALL THE MORE REASON to clean yourself up.
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>>>>>You say in one post to me that your daughters are almost adult....and then you say here that you have daughters who need you and bills to pay. All the more reason to address your problem. And you coming up here and praising Tamar does nothing - she may be your friend....but at the moment, you need TREATMENT.
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>>>>>If we were close enough friends, and I lived relatively close to you, I'd be hauling your ass into a rehab clinic - for your own good.
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>>>>She is my friend. You can preach me to me if you want to but leave Tamar out of it. You could learn something about friendship from her.
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>>>I don't know Tamar but I don't doubt for a minute that she must be a very nice person.
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>>She has stayed with me when many, many others have given up.
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>Interesting viewpoint. Not reality (unless you are referring to folks outside of the UT), but interesting. Some folks have given up hand holding, but they haven't given up.

Good point. Hand holding is not what I need.

One of the guys in my AA group (sober a long time) likes to say he didn't want to die drunk. I don't, either.