>>HOW do WE communicate to the powers that be our problems and requirements and wishes regarding the Windows "Standards"???. . . HOW would we *also* know that they are/have LISTENED???
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>I would say that the best way is to design UIs the way we think they should be (if we _really_ think they're better). If they're good, other designers will copy them, and the word will get out. Look at Quicken and AutoFill.
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>The other way is to write "About Face." :)

Yep. Now tell me how to manke a menu stick using VFP.

Cheers,

Jim N