>>>>>As you know, Walter never lets anything as limiting as facts get in the way of any of his arguments.
>>>>>
>>>>>It seems that he shares the same mind set as Pelosi, Reid and many of our government officials. This is what allows them to call the people at the town hall meeting who do not want national health care "mobs with manufactured anger". What I don't get is that when Bush was president, they said that their dissent was patriotic, but now that the shoe is on the other foot, our dissent is un-american. Go figure....
>>>>
>>>>Not un-American. Just rude and intimidating.
>>>
>>>According to Speaker Pelosi townhall protests are un-American. thank goodness the whitehouse publicly disagreed:
>>>http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/white-house-disputes-pelosi-contention-that-town-hall-protests-are-un-american.html
>>
>>I think we can all agree it would be nice if Nancy Pelosi moved on to the next chapter in her life. Of course, she won't.
>
>One thing is for certain. If it wasn't for disruptors and agitators we wouldn't have equal rights for women today or equal rights for minorities either. They may be loud and obnoxious, but I'll bet that the healthcare bill that finally passes (and I am certain one will), will not resemble the huge bill out there now. I'm sure that those items in it that are the most invasive to individual choice will be removed. So far, every time someone states 'it's not in there, those are just fear tactices' it gets removed :o)

Yes, something will pass, but it will probably be so watered down it won't be real reform. Already it looks like the Chamber of Commerce and other lobbying groups have the government insurance option on the ropes. There goes a lot of the hope for cost containment right there. The private insurers who are eating up so much of our money will continue to do so. It also seems unlikely there will be enough voter appetite to pay for universal coverage if we don't feel we will be getting anything back. It's sure starting to feel like 1993 all over again.