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How to Fix the Health-Care ‘Wedge’
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14/08/2009 01:32:10
Walter Meester
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>>In a civilised country universal healthcare should be a right just as emergency healthcare already is.
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>>I'll ignore the obvious anti-American insult and drive directly into the issue of "right".
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>Insult? where ?

When you assert that in civilized countries health care should be a right, you have implied that the USA is not civilized.
As I said, obvious.

>>Rights, in America, are granted to the individual as a restriction on the State's power. How can "health care" possibly fall into the category of a right? I can understand the idea that the State shall make no restriction upon the individual to receive health care. Which I would be all for, btw, as it would make intra-state insurance restrictions and tax code differences unconstitutional. But how can you provide health care and call it a right? It's counter-intuitive. In addition, health care is nothing more than goods and services. If the State guarantees "health care" to an individual then the State has supplanted itself as the boss of all of the health care industry. What of the rights of those business and individuals currently in the industry?
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>Well tell me why emergency care is a right and healthcare is not a right??

Emergency care is not a right. The 1986 EMTALA, applies to hospitals with Medicare agreements. In addition there are a specific set of circumstances which constitute "emergency care" under the law. Several states have further enhanced the regulations as is their right under the Constitution.

>You have rights like having a lawyer when you are arrested, which also is nothing more than services.

You have a right to a "court appointed" attorney. The court appointed attorney's job is to represent defendants. They know that when accepting the job. No individual is forced to provide "court appointed" services. In addition, the "Miranda rights" as established by the Supreme Court in 1966 are not "rights" in and of themselves but rather a way of further establishing the arrested's 5th amendment right against self-incrimination. They are a reminder to the accused of the limits upon the power of the State (police). In addition, they can be knowingly waived, whereas Constitutional and inalienable rights, by definition, cannot.

>It is a missconception that here in the netherlands the government is the boss of the healthcare. Its the regulator, nothing more and nothing less. The insurance companies are still commercial as is the rest of the healthcare. The government only forced everyone to insure themselves.
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