>Now tell me, do you disagree here with nature, that you're opposed to the concept of mandating an individual that it is forced to live with the body and brains that nature chose?
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>Ever heard of plastic surgery? There is also spirited debate over whether intelligence is more a result of nature or nurture. So, yes, the person may still have the same physical brain cells that he or she was born with, but the important thing is what he/she does with them to increase his/her intelligence. So you cannot mandate that an individual stay ignorant, although stupidity is a lot harder to change <g>.

I've never heard of plastic surgery. Is that operating plastic? :)

The example I chose may be far-fetched, but the point I tried to make is that 'freedom' is essential in some cases and less essential or even impossible in other cases. It is also often the case that one group's freedom has a negative, not wanted, impact on another group. And how about the group's freedom to decide that it is okay to mandate all members of the group to participate in a public service?

Why this focus on freedom of the individual? Aren't justice and equality (to name two) worth as much or even more?

These were the questions I hoped would be answered here.