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29/08/2009 16:24:04
 
 
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29/08/2009 13:58:49
Walter Meester
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>>One word... paranoid...
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>>I don't think so. Historically speaking, America is a center right country. You could not possibly understand this given your left wing ideology.
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>>http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29831/
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>You could not be more wrong... In my country I'm right wing, not left wing.. The problem is that in the US you've got right and even more right. What you call leftish is center right up here.
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>As for the link... yep another conformation of typical polarisation and making people paranoid.
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>I think JonhR put it right... Once opun a time the US was the country where they decide to build roads and they just did it. Along this process they build some schools and learned a whole new set of techniques in construction. Nowerdays it seems a country only busy protecting the things that are getting outdated in the rest of the world anyways, taking confort in the status quo, and have lost the ability to take on new challenges and really improve things through change. There is a huge polarisation between left and right that really is crippling the ability to really do things that matter.
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>The whole discussion about health care in the US is just a prove of that. If you look at the crap that Sarah Palin is spouting about where obama is leading the healthcare towards, I can only shake my head and wonder why people believe this crap. Healthcare in about any other western country in the world is better than in the US while the costs are tremendous.
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>But we went through this, you refused to start a discussion about healthcare with me, so ...

There is a misperception that is generated by the media (tv and radio) that the Town Halls are swamped with angry Republicans and it is those Repubs who are speaking out. In reality, they are not. The Republican party is just jumping on the bandwagon. Townhall demonstrators are in large part Lyndon LaRouche supporters (who started the Obama-is-Nazi theme and the yelling and screaming at the townhalls), Ron Paul Libertarian supporters, conservative radio audiences, and also non-angry independents who are concerned about health care and actually go to get information. If you look closely at the subtitles on those ridiculous Obama is Hitler pictures or signs, there is usually a message with 'LyndonLaRouche.com' on something similar on it. So, the majority of the crazies out there are not from the far right, but from the far-left and the far-right.

Why the national (and international) media does not point that out, I don't know. I guess it gets more mileage out of the story without it. It is evident here in this photo:

http://www.bluestemprairie.com/bluestemprairie/2009/08/outside-the-walz-town-hall-larouche-obama-as-hitler-sign-stirs-passions.html

When it comes to the status of healthcare in the U.S., I've written my views numerous times and I included the reasons why I think this country needs a health system overhaul. However, to say that healthcare in any other western country is better, is false. Healthcare coverage (reaching larger portions of the population) is better in other western countries, but not healthcare. When it comes to emergency care and tests and difficult diagnosis, procedures, and treatments, the U.S. is best at that. Where the U.S. falls short is in day-to-day care from family physicians for the entire country and chronic illness care. Our family physicians are pushing their patients through a 15 minutes session which is inadequate and lacks sufficient focus on the needs and lifestyle of the patients. In some cases illnesses get mroe severe because of it and the patient is forced to seek those expensive surgical procedures that would not have been necessary had they sought and received better family physician care. There is a portion of our population that has no healthcare (I'm not including the idiots who choose not to participate in an offered plan) and that is our major problem. There are those who were dropped by their insurance company or who could not afford health insurance who need to be covered. That is the most critical change we need. However, if and when the entire population is afforded affordable healthcare, we will still have the problem of sufficient time and focus on patients in clinics to avoid the expense of those treatments and surgeries that could be avoided with proper care.
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