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Politics
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Title:
Miscellaneous
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01422716
Message ID:
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>>>>Rape is primarilly about sex. It's about hormone levels, testosteron to name one. It's about the natural drive of a living being that is driven to produce offspring. Prostitution is a fundamental requirement in a civilized society. It enables the members to say to those who are in desperate need: "Well then, go to the whores, but don't you dare to touch my daughter. I'll kill you with my bare hands."
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>>>Well I completely disagree with you Peter
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>>I guess the dutch progressive pragmatic approach is still a bridge too far for others :)
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>Some how this discussion has morphed from stripper clubs (not prostitution or a crime) to prostitution to sex slavery and then rape.

Tc, I have tried to keep it focused on prostitution. It is Nick who apparently can't discuss that without naming those kinds of criminal activities.

>I find it amazing that anyone considers rape purely a sex crime after so many studies have shown it is a crime of power and subjugation. Regardless, the stats on reported rapes per country are interesting (warning file is >5mb) page 76 shows the reported #s:

Your conclusion is wrong. I did not write that it is 'purely a sex crime'. I wrote that it is 'primarily' about sex, about hormone levels. That leaves enough space to bring in other factors. The themes 'power' and 'subjugation' are also correlated with levels of the same hormones.

I think it is looking away from obvious evidence if one dares to say that rape has nothing to do with sex and (sex) hormones.
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>http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/eighthsurvey/5678svr.pdf
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>I really think the Dutch progressive approach has more to do with prostitution and the spreading of disease then sex slavery and/or rape.
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>I'm all for the Dutch progressive approach. Get it licensed, taxed, and monitored.
Groet,
Peter de Valença

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