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Politics
Catégorie:
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Titre:
Divers
Thread ID:
01422716
Message ID:
01423885
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>>>>>>Rape is primarilly about sex. It's about hormone levels, testosteron to name one. It's about the natural drive of a living being that is driven to produce offspring. Prostitution is a fundamental requirement in a civilized society. It enables the members to say to those who are in desperate need: "Well then, go to the whores, but don't you dare to touch my daughter. I'll kill you with my bare hands."
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>>>>>You're a Psychologist and you print that garbage. Whatever shred of respect I may of had for you is gone. All you want to do is foment arguments. Read the literature again, Rape is CONTROL AND HUMILIATION... nothing more. Sex has nothing to do with it.
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>>>>You've remembered that well. However, I have to correct here and now a misunderstanding I introduced myself two years ago in message #1224149. I wrote I had a PhD. I should have written a Masters Degree. I chose the wrong description in 2007. That bothers me since of all people my son confronted me with this some months ago. It was obtained on the University of Amsterdam in 1988.
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>>>>Your reaction that it's about control and humiliation is in line with the reaction of the others here. Apparently there has been some sort of a campaign in the US, telling people that it's not about sex. Well, sure, other factors can also be used as a starting point in the theorizing, but I stick to the theory that it is primarily about hormone levels, testosterone to name one.
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>>>Ah. The good old conspiracy theory. Peter, please!!!
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>>Conspiracy theory? You're joking, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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>>Googling gives me the impression that the "rape is about power" theory is esp. a feminist mantra. As to my knowledge not among feminists in the Netherlands though. So, I get the feeling that my first remark (some sort of a campaign in the US) is not far away from the truth.
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>There is no straw man here.

Okay, you apparently don't see or don't want to admit the straw man fallacy you used, so let me explain it to co-readers: Alan suggests that I am one of those who believe in conspiracy theories. And those people are talking nonsense and should be corrected: "Peter, please!!!" However, there is no justification for saying that about me. All I said was: Apparently there has been some sort of a campaign in the US.

>I refuted your position in my first reply. You simply refuse to accept the idea that rape is not about sex and reproduction because that's what you want to believe. Fine. Although, you still haven't pointed me to a reasonable site supporting your view. A man has a wife and children. Plenty of sex at home. he goes out and commits rape. Rape is about sex???? Anyway, I'm done here. You may continue to believe in your mediaeval concepts of rape as you please.

I see you have finally discovered Tracy's messages and replied there. So, let's discuss there further. Message #1423884
Groet,
Peter de Valença

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