>And as I recall, Walter, the Netherlands haven't been able to defend themselves in centuries. I'm pretty sure your country's track record on any sort of military service is not one to be emulated. All anyone has to do is threaten to bomb Rotterdam and the whole country surrenders. Not a model for America I think. Last I looked we weren't anyones doormat or toilet paper. If that's that you're proud of....hmmmm

With Obama the Worthless, we are working to become everyone's doormat.

Latest example..
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/17/shelve-nuclear-missile-shield-europe/

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>The whole point of the service is not the service itself but the sense of community or nationhood it instills.
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>>>I agree with Tracy. Freedom is earned. With some exemptions, of course, 18 years old should have to perform 2 years of military or community or global duty.
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>>So the land of the free isn't for everyone? So whats the next requirement to earn freedom? No criminal record? Not being an immigrant? Must earn a living?
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>>BTW, we went te opposite way.. obligatory military service has been outphased about 15 years ago.
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>>>>>Ok. I'll start out with two of the things I would like to see change. It's no surprise to anyone who has read my posts that I personally believe that every single American should be required to serve 2 years in public service.
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>>>>Does this not conflict with the ideology of 'freedom' in the US. Isn't this too socialistic for the US?