>>Though I'd still keep any culture responsible if it expanded at the expense of others, if it had the audacity to call itself civilized.
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>Then we have to look at places like sierra leone and (won't mention current places because they are incendiary topics) and question: would they have been better off if they were never occupied? would the results have been the same or worse? would it have been ok if the results were the same but they occurred without any previous occupation? is it any different than what happened in all those all places that had occupations once, twice, etc... it used to be the means of population control and now population control is only handled via disease and epidemics...

History is unscientific. It's an experiment without a control group.

>However, you are correct of course. That last sentence of yours states it all. :o)