>I'm still lost, John because that doesn't explain what he was getting. His complaint is, if the xaml is the same, it should display the same in design vs. runtime.

I agree absolutely. The xaml is the xaml. Why should design and runtime interpret it differently. If there's a problem with the xaml, it should be a problem both in the editor and in the runtime.

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>>I should have said "in his xaml"...there is something in the xaml causing it to display differently...