The designer lets you do things in ways that they shouldn't be done. I think that's part of what you're experiencing. In a real app, you don't put things into the grid as you've done. You'll add rows/columns or other controls such as a StackPanel and host things in them.

>Like I posted to Viv, I will plod along. Its just that this is so frustrating that this happens for simple forms. Like I cannot design them visually consistently.