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No more 'Latest news' from the VFP team? and more
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26/11/2009 15:09:30
Mike Sue-Ping
Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
 
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>>>>>>Once upon a time, if I'm not mistaken, there used to be a monthly update via a news letter from the VFP Program Manager posted on the VFP homepage. I see that the most recent one was done back on April 2009 by the current(?) Program Manager, Milind Lele.
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>>>>>>Now I know VFP is at a dead end in the eyes of Microsoft so I shouldn't expect much in terms of "news" to be posted. The thing that really irks me is that while I can understand and live with their decision to pull the plug on VFP, why didn't Milind at least make a post there/somewhere to say farewell? I mean, part of the reason VFP was a success and continued to grow despite the attempts to give it a premature death, was the very close knit community. That community involved the personnel at Microsoft too. It seems to me that since Milind was brought onboard, he never really got involved. Perhaps I'm wrong, but, I've never seen him do the types of things that a guy like Ken Levy did (like keynote speeches, active blog entries about VFP, etc). I don't think Milind "ever got VFP" or wanted to and was simply the guy who drew the short straw when it came to finding a replacement for Ken.
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>>>>>>I'll admit that I don't know anything about Milind as a person and he could be a really "good" guy. It's just that to me, he never seemed "into it" as the Product Manager. He seems to me to be there just to fill a space. I could just picture him at Microsoft trying to keep a very low profile regarding anything related to VFP. I can say the same about Ken Levy in that I don't know him as a person, but Ken surely knew how to behave :) Another noteworthy individual was Calvin Hsia. He used to blog constantly about VFP stuff. Over the years, I could see that Calvin was slowly moving into .NET, but, his transition was an observable, gradual swing. Even when Calvin was full blown .NET, he'd blog about converting a VFP app/snippet into .NET. My observation is that Milind seems to be the complete opposite.
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>>>>>>Now if you're saying Milind is just a quiet kinda guy and that's the way he is, how do you explain his very active role as Program Manager of the Visual Basic Team at:
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>>>>>>http://blogs.msdn.com/vbteam/archive/tags/Milind%20Lele/default.aspx and
>>>>>>http://blogs.msdn.com/vsdata/archive/2008/10/28/visual-studio-2010-ctp-available-by-milind-lele.aspx
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>>>>>>Keep Googling and he's all over VB.NET. I can see he's "into VB.NET". I can see he wasn't a VFPer and in my mind, Ken was the Microsoft face for VFP and always be.
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>>>>>>Just my 2cents FWIW.
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>>>>>VFP was dead several years ago. Microsoft specifically said that VFP9 was the last. Microsoft very purposfully pushed the VFP community to switch to VS or something else since VFP5 at least.
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>>>>>I'm not sure what you want him to say. The product is dead. Attempts to extend it via third party projects like VFPStudio and .NET compiler have stagnated and are effectively dead.
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>>>>>Is he supposed to beg forgiveness?
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>>>>>Is he supposed to suddenly blog about a rebirth of VFP at Microsoft? Not going to happen.
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>>>>>It's dead.
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>>>>>That's all there is to it.
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>>>>Dude did you READ my message?
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>>>>Show me where I said I'm surprised that VFP is dead and that I expect it to thrive again. I stated that IMO, Milind Lele was not a VFP guy like Ken was. I would at least expect a blog entry by him to say that he's still around or moving on. READ and try to comprehend before you reply...please.
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>>>The thing that really irks me is that while I can understand and live with their decision to pull the plug on VFP, why didn't Milind at least make a post there/somewhere to say farewell?<<<
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>>>Did I not read this? Please read what you post before you respond.
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>>So as I stated, "I can understand and live with their decision to pull the plug...". I was not taken by surprise. You spew back how "it's dead, 9 was the last, threw in VFPStudio, etc.". You state, "I'm not sure what you want him to say". I'll re-word it just for you. I expected Milind to update the "Latest News". Say ANYTHING. Stating he is or is not the VFP Product Manager would be good too. Just say "so long" and that the journey has come to an end. It's not asking too much now is it? I'm certain it would be something that Ken would have done, i.e., shown some class to a community that M$ would desperately like to have for .NET
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>Microsoft gave the VFP community the finger.

And that would be why many are not going to go the Microsoft way again.
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