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>>In my code camp talks for the RIA framework and silverlight, I show the creation of a complete data driven app in about 7 minutes. I use the EF (4mouse clicks about 15 seconds) to bring in the tables, Domain Services to hook up the data to the client (about 6 mouse clicks - 20 seconds) and then the bulk of the time is setting up the grids and the data form for editing and creating navigation pages.
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>>If y'all would take a serious look at current technology instead of taking a beginner's viewpoint and believing it as gospel, you would see what I'm talking about.
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>>The funny thing is you and 3 other programmers in the world will be using vfp.net.
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>OK cool. How about this evening we have a YUUGUU web conference and you tell me the clicks I need to do to build the app in 7 minutes? I have Visual Studio 2008, SQL2008 developer, and Silverlight 3 installed (the current development tools). I'll be happy to invite Pertti and some of the other people who are having a hard time with it. How about 9pm your time?

I have no doubt he can do it in 7 minutes on Northwind database after practicing 700 hours the same sample over and over again.
But how does Northwind database and variety of cool demo videos you have seen, relates to YOUR apps and customers so far ?

Nobody ever asked me to build web based DOME ARCHITECTURE application {g}. I remember also video of cool bicycle selling app in NET,WCF,WPF,WTF etc, but somehow it did not really 'click' on me ... Here we still struggle with 'profanities' such are accountings, profitabilities, invoicings, insurances, disbursements, point of sales, stock controls, shipping apps etc.

But then again I live in the third world. Nobody does these things in US any more. It is all just few clicks in 7 minutes right ?