>One thing I enjoy doing in SF ( and which really helped me to learn VFP ) is to step through framework source as I run my app. It is a very cool way to see what is really going on and it can get one running pretty quickly on the framework.

At my last job, that was one thing that was slowly driving me crazy ... none of the new developers who were newly assigned to my "platform" team *ever* did that. Consequently, they were not learning the framework at all, but were still supposed to be making "enhancements" to the framework .. which ultimately they did not do correctly and my former team-mates who *do* know the framework are now left cleaning up the mistakes that these noobies are making. What a way to run a ship ... I'm glad I'm outta there. <g>

~~Bonnie