>>>>>>And that's only what I could remember on a short notice.
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>>>>>All of your examples bar one (which is not specific enough to comment on) involve the catholic church.
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>>>>Now, the question is, are Catholics Christians or not?
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>>>Your first statement was:
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>>>Just like Christianity is big on inquisition, passing laws without consulting other citizens, running crusades, insinuating itself into all crevices of one's life. So what.
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>>>Yet, your examples were all for catholics. I think that whether or not catholics are christians is irrelevant.
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>>Oh, no you won't get away this time. When one says "there are n million Christians on Earth" - are Catholics counted or not? When one wishes merry Christmas or whatever, does one assume that Catholics count among the recipients, yes/no?
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>>My example was intentionally exaggerated, to point out that if all Muslims, all communists, all Serbs, all bikers, all gays, all straights and generally any group is to be judged as a whole by what their extremists do, then the same logic must apply to all Christians without exemption. So either Catholics aren't Christian, or whatever they do falls on the shoulders of whole Christianity.
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>>This logic hurts, eh? Well, greetings from the receiving end.
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>If the number of Catholics murdering others, supplying murderers, training murderers, being offended when others get mad at murderers, or teaching their children to hate murder because they were not Catholics or a particular subset of Catholics was within a couple of orders of magnitude of what you get with Islam, you might have a point.
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>As it stands, you do not.

Actually, that is a pretty accurate description of Northern Ireland a couple of years ago.
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>I don't give a rats a$$ what happened during the Crusades (or during other similar murderous episodes in the past. Read the news.