>Obama is a hell lot smarter than most think. He could not have won the elections from Clinton by being dumb. His speeches were smart and slick.
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>Obama beat Clinton??? (Well, Obama beat "a" Clinton....Hillary....in the primaries) :)
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>Question for you: Did the government grow or shrink under GWB... and by how much.

>I've said before (as have many as well) that Bush contributed greatly to the housing crisis becuause of the pressure he exerted (actual quote, "using the mighty force of government) to lend money to those who were not worthy of loans for homes. Bush's actions were NOT consistent with those of free-market economics....many people make the mistake that because Bush was a Republican, and because he attacked "liberal" politics of Al Gore and John Kerry in 2000/2004, that Bush himself "must" be a capitalist. Bush was a poor leader who made many serious mistakes.

Point taken, but that was not the question.
Did the government grow or shrink under GWB... and by how much?

Subquestion: Under which president did the government actually shrink?




IOW, lets not talk about sentiments, but the hard facts please.