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02/01/2010 12:56:29
 
 
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02/01/2010 11:46:11
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
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>>>>Cecil, with all due respect, this is b******t.
>>>>From where on earth did you, or the writers of the article, obtain this impession about the operation and jurisdiction of Interpol?
>>>
>>>Are you saying this is fake?
>>>
>>>http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425
>>
>>No. See my question.
>
>Searching whitehouse.gov for "executive order 12425" doesn't find the original order, so "AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES ... Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended ..."
>
>From "certain privileges, exemptions and immunities" anyone can deduce that they'd be exempt and immune from something they may do on American soil. Now, for the utterly illiterate, InterPol is a police. So now not is only a foreign police force allowed to operate within a country in which it is foreign, it's also exempt (from what - your guess is as good as mine) from various limitations that apply to [s]foreigners[/s] international personae, are immune from prosecution (on what? just bad parking like all the diplomats, or...?).
>
>I just hate the legal habit of amending the original (or already amended) text of something over and over, where the unsuspecting public doesn't have the original, or previously amended, text at hand. So nobody has a clue, except those in the need-to-know circle.
>
>But judging by the fervor with which the US were pursuing separate agreements with as many countries as possible, in which a certain promise of aid (or just loans) was exchanged for "certain privileges, exemptions and immunities" bestowed on US troops or other officials in those countries, i.e. that whatever they do they will be out of the host country's jurisdiction. Somebody figured (and I also saw the symmetry) that this time it's Interpol being granted the same on US soil.
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>Don't look at me, though, I'm just a stubborn Serb. No matter what your imperial history books may say, in our books it says that after the Sarajevo assassination of archduke Ferdinand, the Kingdom and Empire of Austro-Hungary has issued an ultimatum to Kingdom of Serbia in ten points - which were all ceded by Serbia, except the last one. That last item would allow the K&E police to run an investigation on Serbian soil, and that last thing Serbia just couldn't do, because that would be the ultimate loss of sovereignty. And that was the formal reason to start WWI.
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>Have I gone native? Maybe. I'm still very sensitive to one country's forces operating on another country's soil. Diplomats et al are not a force; police is.

Interpol do not, and never have had, operational agents operating in individual contries. If you care to look you will see that the Interpol NCB for the U.S. is part of the Department of Justice. Any action in the U.S is carried out by your own local or national enforcement agencies. Same principal applies to the NCB's of all member countries.

FWIW here's the original executive order that you were unable to locate:

Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983

International Criminal Police Organizations

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act; except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.

This is truly scary stuff - granting Interpol the same exemptions as those already enjoyed by, amongst others, the International Pacific Halibut Commission and The International Cotton Advisory Committee. At least they apparently had enough sense to revoke the exemption for the Coffee Study Group! :-}
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