>>>How do you work on non-visuals in a VCX? I vaguely remember I could add non-visuals to a VCX in very old times but I forgot how I could do it. Would you remind.
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>>Using a builder - create an aSelObj() reference to the object being edited, then .newobject(...) the non-visual member to it. However, you must have the .prg where the member is defined in the Set Procedure if you want to open that class with a non-visual member again. IOW, it can be done, but it's more trouble than it's worth. I prefer to add prg-defined members at runtime; sometimes I place a shape as a placeholder on the form/container/page, and in the shape's .init() I .newobject() the member to shape's parent, set its position and size to that of the shape, then return .f. so the shape is gone.
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>Sorry Dragan but that is not what I meant. Otherwise I posted the code that does what you are saying here on UT many years ago.

We had different definitions of "add" in our heads :).

Say, do you also have this experience when searching for an useful bit of code on UT - that what exactly what you need is something you wrote yourself, posted here and forgot about it? Or am I just more advanced in the forgetting department?