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thanks so much for example code Greg. i read in the premable that this searches window titles - my window title is 'inbox - microsoft outlook' - since that is the default i have outlook set to for appearance - so another computer may have some other setting.
it doesn't seem that this will detect programs running but rather windows opened. maybe i'm getting getting wires crossed. i have tried variation of this without being able to get .f. reading.
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