Hi Mike.

>OK, I note that the main menu, has a count property which is the count of menu pads.
>Is there a way to cycle through the main menu, then reference the pads, and then reference the bars underneath them?

Note that all objects are based on Collection. So, use either a FOR loop with the Item method or a FOR EACH loop:

for each loPad in oMenu foxobject
  for each loBar in loPad foxobject
* do something
  next
next

for lnI = 1 to oMenu.Count
  loPad = oMenu.Item(lnI)
  for lnI = 1 to loPad.Count
    loBar = loPad.Item(lnI)
* do something
  next
next

Doug