>It's amazing how smart an influx of blue chippers every year can make you as a coach ;-) He was no hot shakes at Illinois, with one of the top recruiting cities in the country practically in his back yard. I think he's a good coach but let's not get carried away.
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>Dude, where do you get your information??? The Illinois team that went to the dance in 2005 is generally regarded as largely Bill Self's creation and craft...

"Creation and craft" -- such a nice way of saying he wasn't the coach.