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08/03/2010 17:56:52
 
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Politics
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>>>That isn't some wacko opinion unique to me. The Times is generally considered the best newspaper in the world.
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>>Certainly by the Times. Do the names Walter Duranty and Jason Blair mean anything to you? Do you know anything of "Pinch" Sulzberger?
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>>(this is just a randomly culled taste - there is so much more it isn't worth googling it for you)
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>>http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35859
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>It isn't just their own opinion. They have the best writers, the best sources, the best access. Not to mention way more Pulitzers than any other paper.
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>I know who Jayson Blair was. Not familiar with Walter Duranty, am guessing he was another con man. The fact that a con man or two slipped through the system doesn't make it a lousy paper.
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>I also know who Punch Sulzburger was, but am not sure what point you are making there.

Punch was the father. Pinch is the apple that fell a lot farther from the tree and kind of bounced into his current role running the NYT

Surprised you don't know about Duranty (or didn't bother to click the link ) as you studied journalism and there is no liberal bias in American universities. (especially in journalism schools ).

Walter Duranty is one of those Pulitzers - one that Sulzberger refuses to remove from his wall and one of the most disgraceful chapters in American journalism.

I don't question that the NYT has many great journalists working for it that try to do their absolute best. I think there is a corporate culture that allows Blairs and editorial blindspots.

Obviously a great paper, which has made some invaluable contributions but I think I'm just a little more cynical and less prone to worship ( vs earlier mention of Obama speeches. ) I have no problem with acknowledging excellence, I just am very suspicious of people - or institutions - that believe their own hype. I read the NYT. But I don't believe I am reading *all* the news that's fit to print - or at least I don't trust Sulzberger's judgement as to what "fit's".


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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