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ASP.NET
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Miscellaneous
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01454202
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Hi Charles,

Thanks for the detailed reply. I downloaded the demo software and video about 6 months ago and did like what I saw. I got a big job then and never got back to it so I am trying to plan ahead for now. I will drop by the forums and see what they are saying about the new versions. I don't really know enough about things to say that I need WPF but it just seemed easier to learn that going in rather than Winforms and then switching over later. Probably doesn't really matter and I'm making too big of a deal of it!

Bill

>Hi Bill
>
>SF indeed does not currently use WPF out of the box. We had a long talk about it in Amarillo about a year and a half ago when some of the other frameworks were already offereing it (and in some cases are now scrambling to rethink some of it, from what I undestand) At that time they made it clear they would definitely be incorporating into the framework as it matured but meanwhile focused directly on performance and data layer business efficiency. (they had no illusions about the MS "cutting edge") They also did not rewrite the framework to chase Linq to SQL.
>
>And now as VS2010 approaches release SF 2.0 is readying. I would expect to see full WFP support this summer or about three months after the release of VS2010.
>
>I personally have drunk the Microfour kool-aid.. My standards for frameworks is pretty high, having worked closely with Mike and Toni Feltman for over 10 years and I'm impressed with these guys. My take is you would be well-served to look hard at SF now. As you get comfortable with the framework logic and the business layer you can stil do as the rest of us are doing and familiarize yourself with WPF/EF. By the time you have a working knowledge of both, Microfour is going to be providing some great stuff that is going to build on what is already an impressive set of tools.
>
>I think for a lot of people the availablity of their Enterprise server alone would be a very good reason to go with SF. This could also be said of the role-based security module or the Data Deployment Toolkit that uses SMO to maintain SQL schemas through metadata and works nicely in install packages.
>
>That said, I am not qualified to discuss SF in web development or to speak officially for Microfour so I suggest you get more direct input on this. But I do know that it is worth asking before moving on.
>
>Before committing to something I'd encourage you to drop in on the strataframe forum and ask direct questions about the current and coming implementation of SF and stop in on Les Pinter's website for his take on SF.
>
>I can also put you in touch directly with the Microfour people if there is any particular concern you want to discuss with them.
>
>Shoot me an email any time.
>
>
>
>>Hi Charles,
>>
>>I saw you mentioning Strataframe in another thread. If you don't mind, I would like your impressions on the product. I am making my change to dotnet and am looking for a framework. I have been working with Maxframe for VFP since it was first out and can't imagine taking on a new environment without a good framework. I have been looking at Strataframe, CSLA and the DevExpress eXpressApp frameworks.
>>
>>Since I am fairly new at Dotnet, I plan to start with WPF and Entity Framework for my forms and data so I don't have to learn multiple ways of doing the same thing. The DevExpress product uses both in their product as well as supporting web development. The last I looked, Strataframe didn't have any plans for WPF or Silverlight support, at least not in the near future.
>>
>>I would appreciate any thoughts that you or anyone might have.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Bill
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