>>>>I watched the speeches leading up to the vote last night. I sat there and watched the Republic that I love so dearly come to an end. I've said before that without private property no other rights matter. The Kelo v. New London decision crippled the rights of the citizenry but at least we were still allowed to spend the fruits of our labor (net after taxes) as we saw fit. No longer. All property is now subject to the whims of government.
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>>>>I have little hope that the States, courts or even the November election can undo what has been done. 233+ years wasn't such a bad run.
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>>>>The Declaration of Dependence will be signed this week.
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>>>Good lord, Jake, get a grip. This is not going to be the catastrophe you think it is. (You ARE talking about health care reform, right?) For most of us things aren't gong to change much at all.
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>>>What private property is gong to be lost? Do you mean being required to have health insurance? We are required to pay income tax, aren't we? Sales tax in most places. Property tax. We are required to have a driver's license. I don't get why you think this is so different.
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>>You are now required to pay to live. All others depended on income or utilizing a public service or property.
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>Health care just became a public service. You don't like that. I do. It has been the case in every other developed country for quite a while. And yes, I know, you don't care what they do or think.
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>Let me know if you ever make it up this way. We'll take in a hockey game or ballgame and never bring up politics.

No it hasn't. If it had, the cost would come entirely from taxes.