>>>>>Tore, it's amazing to see your temper get the best of you.
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>>>>>Knowing JB the way I do, consider yourself lucky you're across the ocean.
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>>>>This has NOTHING to do with temper. This has to do with respect for people's right to live their own lives.
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>>>You publicly wish for his daugther to get raped, then speak of respect ? And, you called HIM a hypocrit??? Go figure.
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>>Tore is a good guy. It was an unfortunate comment.
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>Everyone who really knows me, will agree that I am a good guy. Hopefully. But I am also a guy who is not afraid to say what I mean when I am provoked. And nothings provokes me more than people who base their opinions on theory based on fairy tales and gullible theories, when I happen to know that the reality is quite different. People may think and mean exactly what they want, no argument there. But when they preach their fantasies and present them as facts, or proclaim that "I have thought this situation seriously over, so I am right and everyone who doesn't agree with me are doomed", I lose all my respect for them.
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>In this particular case, I know personally someone who has been raped and what happened afterwards. So when I read John's message about what he meant should happen after a rape, and compared it to what really happened, I was provoked to a level where I really felt sick, I felt like I wanted to throw up. My comment was harsh, I admit that, but it was exactly what I immediately felt. I have tried my best to "take them back", but at the same time I don't want John to get the feeling that he has "won" by giving himself the right to judge others. There are no "winners" in such situations, there are only losers. So if John stills want to proclaim that he has the right to judge other people for disagreeing with him, I feel sorry for him, I really do.
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>Enough said, I want to leave this behind me. In deep respect to the dead girl and her parents who got their lives destroyed, I ask you all to please close this thread. At least understand why I will not make any more postings in this thread, and I hope my apology is understood and accepted.


What apology? All I see is continued harping on your own perceptions of right/wrong. You are the exact thing that you accuse me of being. Look in the mirror. Do you think you're the only person in the world who knows someone who was raped; someone who committed suicide; or someone who had something terrible happen to them or their family? Get off you ivory tower, go back to patting yourself on your back for a good job done, and shut up...