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>>>That's narrowcasting his words to a specific situation. What he is committing to is no nukes, period. You may not agree -- you probably don't -- but I think that is the right decision. I would have said the same if it had been Bush. Nukes have been used twice in human history, both times by us, 65 years ago. It's time to end the possibility. We can't very well twist the arms of North Korea, Iran, and Pakistan not to keep nuclear arms while we still have them ourselves. Why should they trust us?
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>You do realize that you're just "spinning your wheels", right:)
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>Anyone that believes that the rest of the countries of the world that have nuclear weapons will destroy all their nuclear weapons if we destroy ours.....all I've got to say is I've got a terrific deal on a certain bridge that I'd like to sell.
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>There will always be people, such as Hitler, that will take advantage of the "sheep of the world" that believe everything their leaders tell them. It will always be up to us "hawks" to keep them from safe from themselves.

I always hold the last card in the argument - If we disarm and think happy thoughts, who protects us?