From: "Tom Libby" To: Subject: Re: [fs] VFP All - From the Universal Thread (Costas Menico) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:34:38 -0400
Agreed!!!
I just got the Microsoft Direct Access advertisement from M$. In the developer section they have a session building enterprise applications with Microsoft tools under which they list VB, VI, VC++, and VJ++. Where is VFP???
-----Original Message----- From: David L. Crooks To: foxshare@mail.schedulestar.com Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 12:41 PM Subject: RE: [fs] VFP All - From the Universal Thread (Costas Menico)
>Which is why we don't get the numbers. MSFT marketing of VFP still >sucks! No one is told why they should use VFP over any other product. >Maybe the people didn't come to specifically come to the conference to >learn VFP but 'maybe' have an open mind of what tools are available and >VFP could have been a solution. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Green [SMTP:rgreen@microsoft.com] >> Sent: Monday, October 12, 1998 12:24 PM >> >> Costas, >> >> Developer Tools had 3 booths at Internet World. VB and VC shared a >> booth. VI >> and VJ shared a booth. And VFP and Visual Studio shared a booth. In >> the >> other booths each team was there for half a day. So, for instance, VB >> in the >> morning and VC in the afternoon. In the VFP/VS booth Mike Stewart (Fox >> support in North Carolina) was there all day Wednesday. Mike and I >> were both >> there Thursday morning. And I was there Friday morning. (So in fact, >> VFP had >> more booth time than any of the other individual tools). I'm sorry if >> I was >> out stretching my legs when you came by. The guy who was in the booth >> was a >> local MS guy from New York, who knows VB and VI pretty well. >> >> As for the theater, you're right, there was no VFP presentation. >> That's >> because it is our experience that people do not come to trade shows to >> learn >> about Visual FoxPro. In the 15 hours we were there (8 on Wed, 4 on >> Thu, 3 on >> Fri) we spoke to maybe a dozen people who were interested in VFP. In >> the >> meantime, there were 4-5 people at a time at the other tools booths, >> all >> intently interested. We decided not to have a VFP theater >> demonstration >> based on the sheer lack of numbers, nothing else. >> >> Robert Green >> Product Manager >> Developer Tools Group >> Microsoft >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/developer >> http://mdsn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Le Software Man (UK) Ltd. >> [mailto:Le_Software_Man@compuserve.com] >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 1998 5:24 AM >> To: FoxShare2 >> Subject: [fs] VFP All - From the Universal Thread (Costas Menico) >> >> >> >> This one is for Robert Green >> ============================== >> >> I wanted to report (from a VFP point of view) about the MS Booth at >> Internet Expo this week in the >> Jacob Javits Center NYC . >> >> They had a tiny corner for VFP which was manned by someone demoing >> ... >> VB6. When I asked for >> a demo, he said the rep who knew it well was not there (he was at >> lunch at >> 1130am, ...yeah, right..). >> >> I did talk to him for a little about this problem of MS's lack of >> marketing of the product. He said that >> MS recognizes and is committed to VFP for the long haul. However they >> are >> doing it to keep us >> guys happy and not for any new programmers. I asked him why is that. >> He >> said that all new >> programmers are asking for is VB. >> >> In their presentation theater at the booth, MS was demoing Visual >> Studio >> on huge monitors. The >> big banner on top mentioned everything on the VS except... VFP. I >> asked >> him about that. He said >> that MS did not think anyone would show up! >> >> He did admit that they are doing a bad marketing job and that several >> people did ask for VFP (But >> since the booth was manned by a VB expert, they could not demo it). >> >> He also said that when they go into the big corporate sites they >> don't >> push for any language in >> particular. The clients seem to choose VB though (Now,,, why is that? >> Could it be that they don't >> demo it in their big theater presentations?) >> >> Of course the above info comes from one guy (me), at a particular >> show, >> from a particular MS rep. >> So.. it may be no big deal. Maybe at other shows they do present VFP >> as >> part of studio. >> >> The MS rep said he was sympathetic to our problem and MS's lack of >> marketing. >> >> Before I left he politely asked me if I wanted a demo of their new >> VB6. I >> said: No thanks.. and >> walked away looking for a corner to lick my wounds. >> >> Costas >> >*////////////////////////////// >FoxShare Mailing List. Information at >http://www.hourglassconsulting.com/whyted >whyted@hourglassconsulting.com >*////////////////////////////// >
