>Are you serious about taking away the rights of individuals now, after eight years of Bush and Cheney? Are you truly serious?
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>When in the hell did I ever offer Bush/Cheney as a high value or standard?

Good. It still seems like an odd topic to bring up now.

But you know what? I am tired of arguing. It's a perfect spring day and time to haul the bicycle out of mothballs. I imagine you have the same weather there, because it was beautiful here yesterday, too.