I think there is a lot of truth and insight in what you're saying in general. As you know, I do believe the Towers came down as a result of being hit by two planes. I also believe Al Quaeda did it and that Al Quaeda believes they did it.

If the attack had been on a smaller US target or someplace overseas I might even believe some wackos in our own apparatus somewhere might have known about it or even been behind it, though from what I know of internal security and counter-surveillance I'd be very surprised. ( getting hooked up to a polygraph on a regular basis discourages going too far off the reservation and in fact 98% of the folks in NSA, CIA etc think more like bureaucrats than James Bond )

The interface between former military and intelligence folks and just plain gangsters is very real. A look at the Russian mafia and former KGB makes the connection of CIA to Mafia at time of Bay of Pigs look like nothing.

But 911 was either ideological or for profit. It doesn't make sense as the latter except to massively sell-short on the stock exchange and there are certainly better ways to manipulate that. When you get into the realm of the truly crazy, religious motives are a pretty logical suspect.

And the first rule of being a mercenary is : live to spend the money <s>


But remember, there is a lot of money to be made above-board. Look at Blackwater, Aegis, Titan, Omega etc. Government contracts are usually worth more money than riding shotgun for relatively petty gangsters. And all of their work isn't evil. Many times the guys who are working contract are for the first time being paid what they are actually worth - certainly in terms of the risk involved.

Hollywood loves to play with this stuff, but the reality is often less dramatic.


>>>>>So, I happened across an interview on 2020 last night. A gal was talking with what seemed to be the children of middle east imigrants. The kids have been so misled that they believe the CIA hired Al Qaeda to fly planes into the World Trade center buildings. The reason given, by the kids, for this happening is: So the USA would be at war and could go to the middle east to kill muslims. Is this a common belief in the middle eastern communities? And who is selling them this crap?
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>>>>Hey, I bet you could find all kinds of people in the US who would believe it - except they'd probably emphasize making money for Haliburton as first motive with killing muslims only secondary. Everyone one is entitled to an opinion and the amount of knowledge seems to be inversely proportional to the passion of the conviction.
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>>>>Odd that it never occurs to anyone that if the issue were a Crusade or a pretext for financial gain since the hijackers were predominantly Saudis it would have made sense to seize Saudi Arabia, hold Mecca hostage and take all the oil.
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>>>>Likewise in Iraq, it would have been techinically feasible to seize the southern oil fields, carpet bomb everything else with no boots on the ground and cut a deal with the Kurds for the Mosul fields.
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>>>Yes but that kind of scenario would cause whole world reaction against perpetrators. Immagine Russia/China + few others being ellegible to colectively jump into conflict on a bold premise of preserving world order / freedom against 'axis of willing/determined'
>>>(to loot resources)
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>>>Name of the game here was to do exactly what you say, and yet fool entire world into actually having to support it.
>>>In this respect War-on-Terror defenetely deserves an Oscar. (Despite being biggest ever b-class movie/propaganda)
>>>
>>>Even donkeys in Afganistan/Iraq are capable of understaing this by now, so why is so strange to you that
>>>some middle eastern teenagers (they do attend colledges as well!) are talking/thinking completely outside
>>>CNN/FOX/ABC/CBS/.../WC doctored version of reality.
>>>To some of them is not at all far fetched to think that Al-Aaeda occasionally 'speaks english'.
>>>See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RBXerP0p3Q
>>>(You can google on media coverage on this as well to see how well it has been reported on your side of the pond)
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>>>To the people there it is enough to simply walk out to the street and they will witness the first hand,
>>>how well western media is depicting their reality. So it is natural that they make thier own conclusions.
>>>
>>>What I find amasing is that some people in US still watch and actually believe, whatever above
>>>mentioned budle-of-disgrace-media is digesting and throwing at them as an daily output.
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>>Okay, if I understand your reasoning, you are saying that it is believable that the CIA hired Al Quaeda to fly planes into buildings in Manhatten because four years later in Basra 2 SAS were caught in Basra dressed as Arabs in a car full of guns and plastique.
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>Why it has to be CIA 'hiring' Al-qaeda ? It is those Arab students claiming that not me.
>When you put it this way, it certainly sounds like 'black helicopter'. But how black is that helicopter really ?
>Only thing that is for sure is that 9/11 was NOT done by 19 cave men, nor that buildings colapsed the way they did
>as result of fire. All the rest is complete mystery, which will probably remain mystery forever.
>What I am saying is that given history of undercover inttelligence operations it is not hard to believe
>that some crazy or corrupt fractions of it are capable of commiting attrocities in the name of some greater good.
>(or massive profits).
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>And NO I DO NOT believe 9/11 was done by US government. What they did was, since this event
>suited certain interests, they simply distorted proper investigation and exploited consequences of this tragedy
>for pushing for consecutive wars. Only God knows how many secret services, agencies, military groups, militias,
>security companies (and God know what other crazies) are out there who have military experience (kind of top national skill huh ?) and acces to re$ources necessary for commiting crime like that.
>On top of it they are cross-connected with other such 'units' all over the world, which are connected to drug syndicates,
>terrorist groups and so for. Finding particular group is perhaps is like looking for needle in haystack. They will never get found. Flashing fake passport on TV and saying Al-qaeda did is exactly saying; We have no clue, and we don't care either.
>
>It is actually unimportant who really did it, point is that this event showed how easy was to create global mess
>when it suits certain interests, and how unprepared was US to deal with it in a prudent way. When greatest power
>on the world can be pushed in a state of euphoria/hysteria (and 2 wars thereafter) this easy, then whole world security
>is actually one big house of cards which can be brought down very easy. This is something everybody should be worried about.

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