>>>>>>>What I find amasing is that some people in US still watch and actually believe, whatever above
>>>>>>>mentioned budle-of-disgrace-media is digesting and throwing at them as an daily output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Okay, if I understand your reasoning, you are saying that it is believable that the CIA hired Al Quaeda to fly planes into buildings in Manhatten because four years later in Basra 2 SAS were caught in Basra dressed as Arabs in a car full of guns and plastique.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why it has to be CIA 'hiring' Al-qaeda ? It is those Arab students claiming that not me.
>>>>>When you put it this way, it certainly sounds like 'black helicopter'. But how black is that helicopter really ?
>>>>>Only thing that is for sure is that 9/11 was NOT done by 19 cave men, nor that buildings colapsed the way they did
>>>>>as result of fire. All the rest is complete mystery, which will probably remain mystery forever.
>>>>>What I am saying is that given history of undercover inttelligence operations it is not hard to believe
>>>>>that some crazy or corrupt fractions of it are capable of commiting attrocities in the name of some greater good.
>>>>>(or massive profits).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And NO I DO NOT believe 9/11 was done by US government. What they did was, since this event
>>>>>suited certain interests, they simply distorted proper investigation and exploited consequences of this tragedy
>>>>>for pushing for consecutive wars. Only God knows how many secret services, agencies, military groups, militias,
>>>>>security companies (and God know what other crazies) are out there who have military experience (kind of top national skill huh ?) and acces to re$ources necessary for commiting crime like that.
>>>>>On top of it they are cross-connected with other such 'units' all over the world, which are connected to drug syndicates,
>>>>>terrorist groups and so for. Finding particular group is perhaps is like looking for needle in haystack. They will never get found. Flashing fake passport on TV and saying Al-qaeda did is exactly saying; We have no clue, and we don't care either.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is actually unimportant who really did it, point is that this event showed how easy was to create global mess
>>>>>when it suits certain interests, and how unprepared was US to deal with it in a prudent way. When greatest power
>>>>>on the world can be pushed in a state of euphoria/hysteria (and 2 wars thereafter) this easy, then whole world security
>>>>>is actually one big house of cards which can be brought down very easy. This is something everybody should be worried about.
>>>>
>>>>Why do you say the towers did not collapse as a result of fire? The heat generated by that amount of burning jet fuel was well above the melting point of the metal support beams.
>>>
>>>No still-frame building EVER colapsed as result of fire. At the point and the time of of impact temperature might have reached
>>>melting point of (naked) steel beams. But jet fuel melting steel beams all the way through thick cement of support columns
>>>and then building colapsing at free fall speed is totally banana (pancake) story.
>>
>>http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/eagar-0112.html ?
>>
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>If floors colapsed on top of each other because of those 'bad joints' it would still leave middle part (support columns core) standing all the way up. This article does not bother explaining at all how come core of the buiding (concentrated support columns) was knocked down to ground at free fall speed.

So your alternative theory is that it required the combined effect of the aircraft flying into the tower *and* carefully placed explosive charges around the base to cause the collapse ?
If this were true then the perpertrators must have access to a structural engineer clever enough to work that out - who, by your standards, would need to be infinitely more clever than the engineers who later tried to work out what happened.

OTOH, if such placed charges alone would bring down the tower why bother flying planes into it?